Ok, while some of you may not agree with what Biert said, let's not be calling each other names, eh?


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R.I.P. Dime.

You'll always be a hero to me.

I actually set up a Dimebag Tribute Night at a café tonight - There'll be loud heavy metal, Pantera homevideos on a big screen and quiz and stuff!
And BLACK TOOTH GRIN of course!

I am a fan of Pantera and I loved Dime's guitar prowess. He loved playing the music he liked, not minding what others around him thought. Dime is a guitar legend in my book and I can't believe a year has already come and gone without him.

R.I.P. Dimebag Darrell!

The guy became a legend the second he was shot

To me he was a legend the first time I heard "Walk". And I know for a fact that many other people feel the same way.

I'm not being a dick, I'm not trying to insult anyone. I'm just being realistic.
The guy became a legend the second he was shot (and he's not the first time this happened. Artists tend to bloom after a tragic death).

Of course it's horrible that he was shot. It is horrible when anyone is shot, not just for a musician.

I just think that it's all so hypocrite. When he was alive, you wouldn't hear anything about him or Pantera, I didn't even know of the excistence of a band named Damageplan. If he hadn't been killed, I probably wouldn't have known he was alive.
Then when he gets shot, all of a sudden he's a big hero, everyones favourite, people worship him.

I can't say I was really into damageplan, but long before his death, dimebage has always, and will always be the definitive "metal" guitarist for me. The ultimate riffer, and that's a view shared by many, long before the guy died.

I had a big pantera fest last night and it still amazes me every time I listen to them how many awesome riffs could have flowed from the fingers of one man!

I can't say I'm particularly sad over John Lennon, the guy didn't deserve to die, but I can't say I am a big fan of some of his viewpoints.

I'm not being a dick, I'm not trying to insult anyone. I'm just being realistic.
The guy became a legend the second he was shot (and he's not the first time this happened. Artists tend to bloom after a tragic death).

Of course it's horrible that he was shot. It is horrible when anyone is shot, not just for a musician.

I just think that it's all so hypocrite. When he was alive, you wouldn't hear anything about him or Pantera, I didn't even know of the excistence of a band named Damageplan. If he hadn't been killed, I probably wouldn't have known he was alive.
Then when he gets shot, all of a sudden he's a big hero, everyones favourite, people worship him.

Dimebag was a legend before he died. Read interviews with metal guitarist from 2000-2004 and you will hear his name as an inspiration for countless bands. Him, Zakk Wylde and Kerry King were often said to be the pinnical of metal guitarists. Every hardcore/metalcore band looks to him as one of the key founders of their genre, and his style influenced a lot more than just those genres.

Pantera never became huge because Dimebag was shot. They were already finished (with hope of a reunion in every fans heart) and they had already reached the peak, their music climed through the metal charts and you won't see an all time metal chart without them. Damageplan was never big, Dime and Vinnie didn't want to feed off of Pantera, they just wanted to play music, which is one reason why you didn't know of them. Damageplan still isn't big, they never will be looked at as a legendary band, but Dimebag already was legendary from Pantera and will continue to be.

The only basis for your argument on him becoming famous is that he made news everywhere. DUH! He was the first person to be shot and killed onstage at a large concert...EVER! That's going to make headlines. Whenever there's a shooting in a huge public area it's going to make every headline in North America. But these headlines didn't do anything for Pantera's legendary status besides prompt people to buy Pantera/Dimebag stuff as memorabelia. I got a T-shirt the next day because I wanted to have something to remember the day by.

Dimebag was already a legend, this only prevented him from becoming more of a legend because he had many more riff to write. I don't know where you get the notion where he is Jim Morrison who got famous after he died (well he was famous before, but is much more known now), but you are way off base. I don't care if you like Pantera/Damageplan or not, but acknowledge credit where it is due.

And I was as polite as I could force myself to be...

I agree with everything you said Spinalcold, and will also try to be as polite as possible (it's difficult)
Dimebag was a living legend and to say otherwise is to be IGNORANT.
to say that pantera became famous now that he died is wrong, incorrect, biast, *******, *****, and *** ****** ****...
I suppose you're going to say the Beatles became famous cuz Lennon was killed too, eh? Of course u won't, but that's about as ignorant as ur comment was on a sorta-metal forum.
bAH... ive praised pantera since 95 (which wasnt even when they were at their peak), they are no trend, trendkillers maybe hehe..
Anyways, my posting wasn't constructive i realize, it was also probably childish, and power to those diplomatic ppl here who stay chill, but i kinda had to vent