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#105688 by Goat
Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:49 am
God (as the thing invoked when we say the word 'god') has a purpose, but that purpose can be served without God. The religious people won't admit that and that's the problem.

#105830 by Yanko
Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:27 pm
Wiseblud wrote:i know where you're at there...

not wanting to start a religion discussion, obviously, cause that's pretty pointless, especially on the net :lol:

but does anyone here have faith?
I mean, no matter how fucked up things get, no matter how abandoned you feel, no matter how irrational and illogical it may seem, you just have this feeling of.... faith on something "bigger"? (and i don't mean the family sized pizza! :lol: )


Well the only thing I have faith in is the Law of averages which states that as good as you (all of us) put in, you (all of us) will get out. It will not be ten-fold like it says in the bible, but I can live with that. I have learned a lot in my short time and one of those things is that if you disregard everything that comes out of a "spiritual" person's mouth, regardless of deity, the truth is easy to see.

The world (universe) is all about vibration and the lack of vibration. Vibration is what we call energy, the lack therof is called entropy. So here we are in a Cosmic Black box, on a planet surrounded, nay bathed in energy from a source that is unknown. We know that without the energy bath, vibration ceases and entropy starts to slowly steal away whatever energy we have in reserve. So we walk/grow towards the places that are bathed in energy. This is true for all life, plants animals alike. This is a delicate system, built in three dimensions out of (possilbly) multi-dimensional stuff by what Aristotle called the "Prime Mover". The prime mover is the "being/thing" that wound up the energy clock and watches it, slowly very slowly unwind.

If you look at the world empirically (based off observable evidence), God really doesn't care any more for me, than for the cat that was hit by the car when I tried to save it from a dog. The prime mover doesn't seem to care about life or death or love, just that every thing that vibrates at one time, eventually stops vibrating. Almost as if it was an experiment in seeing how long the bowling ball takes to stop its roll. While we are here we might as well save ourselves.

In fact, Salvation itself is one of the most human things on the planet. God did not invent that, we did when we built the first fire, the first walls, the first club. Salvation is a social structure and family and morality and NOT going around the globe converting people like it says in most (some) religions.[/quote]

nice reply man :)
I'm pretty much a believer of energy all around too, since i was a kid. I mean, i discovered quantum physics by myself when i was 10 :lol:

okay, it actually wasn't that, i just thought "why the hell do all these atoms have to stick together? what if we're just being 'reformed' every second?", but hey, that's pretty bold for an 10 year old :P

anyway, there was this really cool article, that explained God through artificial life programs. It was REALLY crazy stuff, but it all made sense. If you had this artificial life program where each being is represented by one pixel, the dude said that a person (the creator of the universe), could not be represented by a pixel, so therefore, God probably wouldn't be represented on our world physically either, and lots of stuff like that, involving physical presence, spirituality and prophets. Even for the skeptics, it was an interesting read.

I already considered the mental sensation of "there is something else there" to be some kind of evolutional synaptical "wiring". If we get to a place where our head is spinning too fast, it just throws us to this alternate "cool down" mechanism which makes us think "there must be something else i can't grasp!", and that would be the basic principle formation of faith.

But what the hell, i'm sleepy as fuck and i can barely read what i just wrote, nevermind my mental wanderings :P

#106070 by Wiseblud
Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:12 pm
Thanks man, my dad always used to tell me, "even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while." :D I agree with the whole faith cooldown thing, kind of like a necessary release valve/coping mechanism because our little meat brains cant make sense of it.

Oh well I sure as hell dont have all the answers, I actually admire people of faith. They do things I am not able to and live happy, whereas I rant on the HevyDevy forums about the meaning of life. :roll:

#106568 by Yanko
Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:47 pm
i feel like i have to tell this one here, even though i can't really go into details

but someone close to me is having some SERIOUS problems with the family, and yesterday i started to feel unease and overall get a very bad feeling. No matter how i tried to calm down and use my rational mind, which i ALWAYS do, i couldn't, and i kept getting the same mental image of this "encounter" of the person with someone else, that could end up in big confusion.
I always try to follow this crazy intuition thing, and i never get that kind of feeling out of the blue. My mom said i was COLD the moment i got it. Everyone tried to calm me down and say "nothing is gonna happen, relax!"
After i got calmed down, i went to bed.

And woke up the next day with a phonecall, saying that some stuff had hapenned, and it was exactly what i "invisioned"...


now i guess i'll just have to start studying syncronisms :lol:

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