Woah! Good lord, it's a cheeseburger!!!
#204870 by islandsinthesky
Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:17 am
daneulephus wrote:I thought he already chose a drummer(s)?

Ok, I'll bite....Bobby jarzombek, again. After seeing that video with him hitting cymbal crashes behind his head, I am sold. 8)


I thought Charlie Zeleny did a better job playing with Ron.
#204879 by GuyOne
Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:52 am
Rahovart wrote:
GuyOne wrote:
rfarby wrote:Nick Barker if you get around the visa issues. Testament couldn't.


I have always wondered why those Norweigans always have trouble with visas in North America. Do they all have intense criminal records? What is the big deal?


Nick Barker's from England.


And this is why I stayed away from the drumming discussion for as long as I did. I must have mistaken him for someone else and madea fool of myself in the process!
#204932 by islandsinthesky
Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:41 pm
Chris Polglase from London Elektricity might be good. Drum and Bass intensity yet optimism, blah blah promotion, blah blah look him up.
#204959 by Rahovart
Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:15 am
GuyOne wrote:
Rahovart wrote:
GuyOne wrote:
rfarby wrote:Nick Barker if you get around the visa issues. Testament couldn't.


I have always wondered why those Norweigans always have trouble with visas in North America. Do they all have intense criminal records? What is the big deal?


Nick Barker's from England.


And this is why I stayed away from the drumming discussion for as long as I did. I must have mistaken him for someone else and madea fool of myself in the process!


I only know because I'm a huge Old Man's Child fan :D

Speaking of which, Gene Hoglan's work with Galder was also very tasty
#204983 by islandsinthesky
Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:19 am
Rahovart wrote:Speaking of which, Gene Hoglan's work with Galder was also very tasty


Agreed, but Peter Wildoer was the best thing that ever happened to OMC drumwise.

Although In Defiance Of Existence was my favorite.
#204987 by Tyroshai
Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:27 am
The Dev wrote:Yup, prog, deathy (in parts), crazy, alien, grey, solos, electronic, choral and symphonic, and a bunch of ziltoid.

It's not all loud though, there's some very subdued and ambient parts, but definitely dark...some industrial Godfleshy stuff...

It's very colorful, it's not a standard '12 song metal album'...and it is the most 'conceptual' of the bunch...serious though, not jokey.

I suspect some FULL BORE metal heads will shit over about 60% of it and be confused by 40%...the 40% is how I can justify it at this point without getting tired of it.

The build up from Ki through Addicted makes it really something else, it starts very quietly though.

There's fast bits, but lots of mid heavy tempos.

Konrad (ki) is doing the art.



...Parfik! :D
#204993 by Rahovart
Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:45 am
islandsinthesky wrote:
Rahovart wrote:Speaking of which, Gene Hoglan's work with Galder was also very tasty


Agreed, but Peter Wildoer was the best thing that ever happened to OMC drumwise.

Although In Defiance Of Existence was my favorite.


Slaves of the World did blow me away, but sadly the OMC community is much less...thriving than our Dev's so I never really got a chance to discuss it :( Gone are the days of that forum...

On topic: I are like good drummers.
#205012 by TheDrummingAss
Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:09 pm
I suppose Derek Roddy is a consideration?
Maybe he's more about the technical side than drumming soul, but how much double bass and blast beating are we talking about?
If we had a general idea...
#205087 by Carpathian Psychonaut
Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:50 am
The Dev wrote:It's not all loud though, there's some very subdued and ambient parts, but definitely dark...some industrial Godfleshy stuff...


Great to hear either end of that sentence. You need some light to balance out the dark, provide a contrast etc. Sometimes it's having those parts that make the full on bits all the more intense. That's what many artists forget and what has always made Dev's stuff work so well.

As for mentioning Godflesh, even just as a passing example, well that's just brilliant. Seeing them doing a 20min "Love Is A Dog From Hell" in the middle of a Fear Factory set (they got there late after their van broke down so FF stopped playing and let them on for a track!) is still a defining gig moment for me.

Just when you think you're stoked for this release some news comes out and it just raises the bar a tiny bit more. With most artists I'd be nervous about pay-off not reaching the expectations but with this I'm happy to take the ride wherever it leads.
#205114 by grrrv
Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:29 am
Zyprexa wrote:I would imagine it was scrapped because the vast majority of foreigners don't want America to know jack shit about them, let alone keep their fingerprints on file like they're some kind of fucking criminal!

It wasn't scrapped... They took my fingerprints when I visitied LA back in 2006. And this very morning the Finnish police took my fingerprints because I was applying for a new passport. Having my prints on file in two places like this is a bit unsettling.

Back on topic: drummers? Peter Wildoer. 8)
#205219 by GuyOne
Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:19 am
i have a feeling that Decon will take quite some time for Devy. And I predict it won't be released until the very end of the year or possible beginning of 2010.

I begin to feel that he really wants to take his time with the different layers and movements. Prove to those hardcore SYL believers that Devy can make extreme metal even without the rest of the band behind him.

I have faith in him and to tell the truth, as much as I like extreme music, Decon wasn't being as anxiously awaited like the other albums. But the little ino we have right now raises that bar for me.
#205322 by dasher10
Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:56 pm
Here's a question that I'm not sure if anyone asked yet. Given that the previous albums had guest vocalists, will there be one on this album? If so, will it be a bigger name or somebody completely unknown?
#205324 by Jormungandr
Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:06 pm
Wow, I just finished listening to Scarsick by Pain of Salvation for the first time and it reminded me a lot of Deconstruction. The concept that is. In Scarsick there are "rappish" songs that talk about how ridiculous rap is and poppy songs that talk about how big of a whore the industry is, and it reminded me a lot of what Devin said about Deconstruction being insanely heavy but having the lyrics discuss how weird/ridiculous it is to enjoy that kind of music. Anyone else listen to Pain of Salvation get this kind of vibe from the cd? I thought it was really neat reading along with the lyrics and going "wow, this is pretty heavy material." Kinda hoping that's how Decon turns out.
#205352 by daneulephus
Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:42 pm
Jormungandr wrote:Wow, I just finished listening to Scarsick by Pain of Salvation for the first time and it reminded me a lot of Deconstruction. The concept that is. In Scarsick there are "rappish" songs that talk about how ridiculous rap is and poppy songs that talk about how big of a whore the industry is, and it reminded me a lot of what Devin said about Deconstruction being insanely heavy but having the lyrics discuss how weird/ridiculous it is to enjoy that kind of music. Anyone else listen to Pain of Salvation get this kind of vibe from the cd? I thought it was really neat reading along with the lyrics and going "wow, this is pretty heavy material." Kinda hoping that's how Decon turns out.


I am with you...POS is my SECOND favorite ever....but, Daniel Gildenlow sometimes puts me off with his philosophy and ideals. I liked concepts like The Perfect Element better. It was more human. I hate politics in music.

I get what you mean though. The irony and sarcasm inherent seem similar....except Dev actually uses humor too. No point in taking yourself too seriously!

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