"I could play Stairway to Heaven when i was twelve. Jimmy Page didn't write it till he was twenty-eight. I think that says a lot." - Vim. Bad News.

All this bit about those old rock guitarists couldn't match the new gods technically is a load of rot.

The innovators were at the cutting edge of technique for their time, and then pushed beyond it. Those that came after learned the results of their work and built on that.

To say the latest generation is the best because they can do more than their predecessors is like saying I am a better mathematician than Archimedes or Galileo because I understand their shit and relativity as well. (actually none of that last bit is true but YKWIM).

Quoted for truth.

THe lack of respect in this thread is astounding.

You people, Devin especially, have not a clue what you're talking about and need to be put in place.

The simple fact is that raisins are not only delicious, but healthy AND easy to pack in a lunch.

"I could play Stairway to Heaven when i was twelve. Jimmy Page didn't write it till he was twenty-eight. I think that says a lot." - Vim. Bad News.

All this bit about those old rock guitarists couldn't match the new gods technically is a load of rot.

The innovators were at the cutting edge of technique for their time, and then pushed beyond it. Those that came after learned the results of their work and built on that.

To say the latest generation is the best because they can do more than their predecessors is like saying I am a better mathematician than Archimedes or Galileo because I understand their shit and relativity as well. (actually none of that last bit is true but YKWIM).

Yes. Again, Buddhist philosophy: Chop wood and carry water. How can you have a complex structure without a foundation?

THe lack of respect in this thread is astounding.

You people, Devin especially, have not a clue what you're talking about and need to be put in place.

The simple fact is that raisins are not only delicious, but healthy AND easy to pack in a lunch.

We should write a screenplay about the prejudice raisins go through on a day to day basis.

Or we should write a screenplay for "Raisin In The Sun 2: Back To The Hood".

... Goodbye, topic of thread.

We should write a screenplay about the prejudice raisins go through on a day to day basis.

Or we should write a screenplay for "Raisin In The Sun 2: Back To The Hood".

... Goodbye, topic of thread.

I think Jimi Hendrix was raisin hell every time he picked up a guitar.

We should write a screenplay about the prejudice raisins go through on a day to day basis.

Or we should write a screenplay for "Raisin In The Sun 2: Back To The Hood".

... Goodbye, topic of thread.

I think Jimi Hendrix was raisin hell every time he picked up a guitar.

Ahhhh that was bad. yet funny. I don't see what the problem with raisins is. Poor grapes are just dehydrated...

nirvana, soundgarden, stp ---> metallica, pantera, sepultura ---> abigor, darkthrone, emperor, and a wealth of black/death metal bands ---> SYL, Dev, Opeth, Enslaved.

Wow, almost exactly the same here! Except I didn't really had a DM/BM phase. And Devin is actually my favourite since 1997...lol.

Everyone is right in saying there is no best guitarist.... You have only forgotten one thing:

Rory Gallagher was the best guitarist.

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Vintage PVC - California Raisins Jimi Hendrix Figure

Really surprised at the amount of people who would utter Cobain's name in the same sentence as Hendrixs'. Cobain made it big copying Boston and writing power pop. Hendrix revolutionized the electric guitar. His output in such a short career dwarf's most living artist's entire catalogue. Especially that of Cobain. Cobain set guitar playing back a decade. I'm literally at a loss that any thinking person would even consider speaking of Cobain in the same breath as Hendrix.

Furthermore, does anyone really think that his contemporaries in the 60's would have shone as brightly were it not for Hendrix? Each and every one of them has said in interviews that the day they heard Hendrix for the first time, they thought their carreers were over. I'd wager that just the fact that Hendrix existed, pushed his peers to make better music and try different things. I would expect that Beck, Page, Harrison, etc. all went home and practiced after the first time they saw Hendrix. To truly appreciate the depth and scope of his vision, Hendrix can not be relegated to background music. I actually have a 50pc DVD spindle full of Hendrix Flac's. He only had a 4 year career! Not only did his lead playing engulf listeners with new sounds and speedy (for the time) bursts, but his rhythm playing was completely innovative. His massive hands allowed him to do things that none of his peers could pull off. He could barre 3 strings with his thumb and play a melody in a 9 fret range with his remaining fingers. I will be the first to admit that Woodstock was his worst recorded performance but the solo he played was an excellent video representation of his dexterity.

One of my favourite Hendrix stories is when he played Sgt. Pepper's live 2 days after the album came out in 67 when the Beatles turned up to watch him play. Apparently, they didn't take it as a compliment. They had just heard rumors of this crazy american guitarist and when they turn up to check him out, he throws that at them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edhifzxSfPw&feature=related

I may of mentioned how you can buy books of their hand written creative processing (Hendrix and Cobain). Wasn't till after I posted it I clicked they both died youngish. Maybe some people can see more into Jimi than just the awesome guitar playing?

[Keeker]

"I could play Stairway to Heaven when i was twelve. Jimmy Page didn't write it till he was twenty-eight. I think that says a lot." - Vim. Bad News.

All this bit about those old rock guitarists couldn't match the new gods technically is a load of rot.

The innovators were at the cutting edge of technique for their time, and then pushed beyond it. Those that came after learned the results of their work and built on that.

To say the latest generation is the best because they can do more than their predecessors is like saying I am a better mathematician than Archimedes or Galileo because I understand their shit and relativity as well. (actually none of that last bit is true but YKWIM).

Quoted for truth.

Does this mean that my potentially argument-stopping theory of the best musician ever being the hominid who first picked up two sticks, banged them together and registered that there was such a thing as rhythm can't be used?

Och!

Does this mean that my potentially argument-stopping theory of the best musician ever being the hominid who first picked up two sticks, banged them together and registered that there was such a thing as rhythm can't be used?

Och!

uh, no. He was a drummer.

Does this mean that my potentially argument-stopping theory of the best musician ever being the hominid who first picked up two sticks, banged them together and registered that there was such a thing as rhythm can't be used?

Och!

uh, no. He was a drummer.

Yeah, also you can't really stop arguments on this forum without taking certain measures.

[Keeker]

Does this mean that my potentially argument-stopping theory of the best musician ever being the hominid who first picked up two sticks, banged them together and registered that there was such a thing as rhythm can't be used?

Och!

uh, no. He was a drummer.

Yeah, also you can't really stop arguments on this forum without taking certain measures.

<waits for some forum drummers to protest at being excluded from the term 'musician'> Also, I'm not stopping the argument, just rattling the cage.

On further thought, singing was maybe first?

Actually I believe the Teremin was first followed by very simple single VCO analogue synths but all the early ones were destroyed by the same meteorite collision thing that did for the dinosaurs.