...what im saying is, EVERYTHING PHYSICALLY ALTERS THE FUNCTIONS OF UR BRAIN, DEVY MUSIC INCLUDED...

So, what do you need the drugs for, then?

Oh, or is this just your way of saying "you cant' tell me what to do" of "fight the power"?

Maybe this isn't about drugs at all, huh?

Janne u havent been paying attention to what ive really been saying at all. that's fine though, strong opinions only hear what they want to hear.
I definitely raised a variety of different issues that werent all directly related but this isnt an academic paper, it's a message board.
i'm not trying to convince u, i know that's futile, just trying to raise awareness for u open-minded ppl out there.
i used to believe drugs were everything u are saying they are now, really, i used to say exactly what you're saying about escapism and breaks from reality etc, and now i can safely say that the majority is exagerations, half-truths and outright lies.
As EonApocalypse also pointed out, everything is psychoactive.
Obviously im not suggesting ppl go out and shoot up heroin as a hobby, but heroin and pot have as much to do with each other as cocaine and chicken dumplings.
Nor am i trying to fight the system for the sake of fighting the system, i think my arguments already made that clear enough, the 'system' fights you, to use silly generic terms...
You accuse me of arguing against u out of rebelion... um, like i said earlier, that's obviously not tru and u're just show-casing ur bias and unwillingness to actually listen to my points by saying that.

Actually, I could say exactly the same thing to you in every point you're making. Obviously you too only hear what you want to hear and so on...

You keep coming back to the statement that everyting alters your reality; books, music, TV... All of them are drugs - sort of. Fine, that's a valid point, although it's clearly designed to take the focus away from the kind of drugs this entire thread was about initially. (There are no posts here saying how great Terria is to listen to while watching TV...) And suddenly you yourself decide that there are indeed differences. Pot and heroin are different things, you say - and yeah, I agree. But even so, they're both drugs.

You have yet to explain why certain "drugs" (that, according to you, are comparable to reading a book or watching TV) are so important to you, that there seem to be no alternatives? Why they are so important to you, that you go through all this hassle, discussing it with someone as "biased" and "unwilling to listen" as myself?

And - although I think I mentioned this in an earlier post - for the record, I have tried a variety of different drugs myself. However, I soon discivered that whatever drug I tried, it didn't do shit for me and today it's a rare thing even to see me drunk. To put it shortly: I can't do anything on drugs, that I cannot do while sober.
So please don't call me biased. I have more experience in this field than you think...

P.S. I won't bother posting again in this thread. I've made my point, just as you have. I'd appreciate if you answered my questions, though. Other than that, I don't see a reason to continue this discussion. Instead of allowing ourselves to get too unfriendly, how about we agree to disagree and start discussing Devin and his music again? Peace?

[Blazingmonga]

Yes, both of you should take 5 and calm down! It's not worth arguing over this because no amount of bickering will change either one of your thoughts on the matter.

By all means explain to us how you feel on the subject, and feel free to discuss this...but there is only so much use in doing so.

You have both raised interesting points and I salute you for it. I think that you have taken this far enough and it is best to agree to disagree.

I won't lock this thread or anything so long as it remains chilled out, as it is still an interesting topic.

Blazingmonga ure right dude
*chilling out*

*chilling*

Anyways..............

The only thing I have to say is that to each his/her own

Drugs are for some and not all. Careful how you use them, careful which ones you use, and careful not to abuse them.

the life is the best drug

the life is the best drug

I mostly agree, but I think chocolate works better, since it never kicks you in the cojones.

xDDDD but these kicks makes me feel alive too!

I read somewhere that Dev quit smoking weed. Is this true, or just some bogus story?

didnt he say sumthin about it on the bonus syl-dvd?

He said it in an interview too, but since he called it a hiatus I wouldn't be surprised if he starts again.

[Blazingmonga]

I am sure that whether or not Devin takes drugs is an entirely private issue and not one that is likely to affect the music whatsoever.

And it is definately not the case that he would be less cool for taking less drugs.

Cool is in the eye of the beholder.