Page 1 of 2

Dev and books

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:31 pm
by mo
Hi Tracy,

I was wondering if Dev reads much and if so what books do you think he'd recommend?

Also, I understand there's a book by Devin about Infinity and its only Japanese?

And while you're at it, what books would you recommend?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:03 pm
by Tracy
Dev's not really a reader.

There is no Infinity book, just the liner notes for either No Sleep Till Bedtime box set or the Infinity album.

I read a lot but find little to really impress. I need a balance of good use of language (i.e. good writing), character development and depth (what does it matter if you don't care about them?) and an engaging story. Many have 2 but few I have found have all 3.

My favourites are all now movies so they sound cheesey. And I'm a chick so most of you guys will roll your eyes at the list anyway

Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen.
Princess Bride - S. Morgenstern/William Goldman
Lord of the Rings Trilogy
Red Dragon - Thomas Harris (though it was 10 years ago, may not be as cool now. However, the first book that made me care enough to almost want a psychotic killer to get away with it)

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:33 pm
by mo
LOTR is also one of my faves, I still haven't seen ROTK. Once I heard they chopped out most of the ending I wasnt as enthused.

Read Wonderland Avenue - Danny Sugerman if you get bored.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:16 pm
by doomsoldier
Read House Of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski.

Best book ever. I've read it five times now, which says a lot, because I rarely ever re-read books at all. It's Laberynthine in it's depth and scope. It's leaves potential for endless discussion over the nuances of the plot. And some of the actual writing techniques are like none I have ever seen before.

!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:13 pm
by EternalMetal
A book i just recently read. Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Highly recommended, excellent book. If you have ever read 1984, this book is a thousand times better. It really puts society into perspective, and considering the time it was written, it has been a scary prediction of what our world has become.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:15 pm
by Tracy
EternalMetal wrote:A book i just recently read. Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Highly recommended, excellent book. If you have ever read 1984, this book is a thousand times better. It really puts society into perspective, and considering the time it was written, it has been a scary prediction of what our world has become.


I read that but had just read Ayn Rand's "Anthem" right before it and they are almost the same story.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:43 pm
by Yanko
i feel so nerdy when i say one of my fav books so far was about artificial inteligence and conscience 8(

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:13 pm
by Spinalcold
Tracy wrote:
EternalMetal wrote:A book i just recently read. Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Highly recommended, excellent book. If you have ever read 1984, this book is a thousand times better. It really puts society into perspective, and considering the time it was written, it has been a scary prediction of what our world has become.


I read that but had just read Ayn Rand's "Anthem" right before it and they are almost the same story.


Or "We" by whoever did that. 1984 was a copy of that.

btw, Tracy, I would strongly recomment Jaqueline Carey's - Kushiel's Dart and the consecutive books. The most powerful books I've every read, they pull the reader in entirely so that you nearly become the charecter. Blends romance, politics, war and religion perfectly together and the way she plays with opposites is brilliant, like nothing else I've read. Everyone I've shown it to, I've forced them to read the first page and they're hooked. So if you see it in a book store, just take a minute and check it out. :-)

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:52 pm
by DeviousMofo
Tracy wrote:And I'm a chick so most of you guys will roll your eyes at the list anyway

Princess Bride - S. Morgenstern/William Goldman

Well, I'm a guy, and I second that! Awesome book/film.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:54 pm
by Spinalcold
DeviousMofo wrote:
Tracy wrote:And I'm a chick so most of you guys will roll your eyes at the list anyway

Princess Bride - S. Morgenstern/William Goldman

Well, I'm a guy, and I second that! Awesome book/film.


never read the book, but I would like to. Same as The Flight of Dragons by Peter Dickinson, a kids cartoon based on a book that I want to read sometime (once I whittle down the current stack of books)

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:56 pm
by Brainwashed
Tracy wrote:
EternalMetal wrote:A book i just recently read. Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Highly recommended, excellent book. If you have ever read 1984, this book is a thousand times better. It really puts society into perspective, and considering the time it was written, it has been a scary prediction of what our world has become.


I read that but had just read Ayn Rand's "Anthem" right before it and they are almost the same story.


Yeah, to be honest, "Brave New World" was decent, but didn't do a whole lot for me. I've also read his book about mescaline, "The Doors of Perception" and wasn't very impressed either.

If you'd like a really good sci-fi satire book, try Ray Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451"...blows BNW away.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:03 pm
by into the voigtex
Tracy, have you read any Paulina Simons? Never read them myself but my wife Lisa loves them. Raves about them in fact. Even named her kitten "Tully" after one of the characters.

For sci-fi/fantasy stuff, you could do a lot worse than Julian May's Saga Of The Exiles. Those I can personally recommend. :D

Also, I was wondering whatever happened to Dev's "Temperamental" book?

Ro

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:18 am
by FlatHead
Last thing I read was the comic series The Invisibles. My mind hurts :) I'm sure Synchestra will soothe the pain.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:31 am
by hog
Try "Kane and Abel" by Jeffery Archer, its one amzing book Tracy :)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:22 am
by DeviousMofo
Spinalcold wrote:Same as The Flight of Dragons by Peter Dickinson, a kids cartoon based on a book that I want to read sometime (once I whittle down the current stack of books)

Be careful with this one. The cartoon you're referring to was actually based on two books: The Flight of Dragons by Peter DICKINSON, and a novel called The Dragon and the George by Gordon R. DICKSON. The Flight of Dragons book is a collection of poems, drawings, traditional short stories and other "evidence" intended (according to the blurb) to "prove that dragons did exist". It's heavily illustrated and obviously where whoever did the cartoon drew the visuals from.

The Dragon and the George meanwhile is pure fiction and features a version of the storyline from the cartoon and many of its important characters--Smrgol the dragon, Aragh the wolf, Danielle the archer etc--but no pictures. In order to fully understand where the cartoon came from, you'll have to get both, although neither is likely to be quite what you expect. There doesn't seem to be any link between the two, and the phonetic similiarity between the author's names is actually written into the cartoon (something to do with the main character's name as I recall). Nice touch.

Anyway, sorry if you knew any of that already. I only discovered all this in the last couple of years after a long, slow search into Flight of Dragons (the cartoon) which I loved as a kid also. Phew, didn't expect to be posting THAT on my third entry to the Devin Townsend forum... :shock: