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#100926 by EternalMetal
Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:42 pm
Brainwashed wrote:
Tracy wrote:
EternalMetal wrote:A book i just recently read. Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Highly recommended, excellent book. If you have ever read 1984, this book is a thousand times better. It really puts society into perspective, and considering the time it was written, it has been a scary prediction of what our world has become.


I read that but had just read Ayn Rand's "Anthem" right before it and they are almost the same story.


Yeah, to be honest, "Brave New World" was decent, but didn't do a whole lot for me. I've also read his book about mescaline, "The Doors of Perception" and wasn't very impressed either.

If you'd like a really good sci-fi satire book, try Ray Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451"...blows BNW away.


I felt the compltete opposite. Fahrenheit 451 was a decent book, but was still a similar book to 1984. I sometimes have a hard time distinguishing the plots. Brave New World was an excellent book imo, but I can see whay people wouldnt like it.

#100940 by Spinalcold
Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:58 pm
DeviousMofo wrote:
Spinalcold wrote:Same as The Flight of Dragons by Peter Dickinson, a kids cartoon based on a book that I want to read sometime (once I whittle down the current stack of books)

Be careful with this one. The cartoon you're referring to was actually based on two books: The Flight of Dragons by Peter DICKINSON, and a novel called The Dragon and the George by Gordon R. DICKSON. The Flight of Dragons book is a collection of poems, drawings, traditional short stories and other "evidence" intended (according to the blurb) to "prove that dragons did exist". It's heavily illustrated and obviously where whoever did the cartoon drew the visuals from.

The Dragon and the George meanwhile is pure fiction and features a version of the storyline from the cartoon and many of its important characters--Smrgol the dragon, Aragh the wolf, Danielle the archer etc--but no pictures. In order to fully understand where the cartoon came from, you'll have to get both, although neither is likely to be quite what you expect. There doesn't seem to be any link between the two, and the phonetic similiarity between the author's names is actually written into the cartoon (something to do with the main character's name as I recall). Nice touch.

Anyway, sorry if you knew any of that already. I only discovered all this in the last couple of years after a long, slow search into Flight of Dragons (the cartoon) which I loved as a kid also. Phew, didn't expect to be posting THAT on my third entry to the Devin Townsend forum... :shock:


Hmm, I did not know that. That's really weird because the cartoon even says it's based off Flight of Dragons by Peter Dickinson. That's really weird....but I would love to read both of those.

#100942 by Spinalcold
Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:01 pm
EternalMetal wrote:I felt the compltete opposite. Fahrenheit 451 was a decent book, but was still a similar book to 1984. I sometimes have a hard time distinguishing the plots. Brave New World was an excellent book imo, but I can see whay people wouldnt like it.


Aldus Huxley is a genious, some of the things I find out about him are amazing. Did you know he was nearly blind? He could basically only see some colours. Then he found someone claiming he could train his eyes to see again and so he took his advice and cured his own blindness. Apparently he invented the word "Agnostic". There's countless other fastenating things about the guy. I really want to read a few more books by him, my sister collects them all, heh.

#100949 by EternalMetal
Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:13 pm
Spinalcold wrote:
EternalMetal wrote:I felt the compltete opposite. Fahrenheit 451 was a decent book, but was still a similar book to 1984. I sometimes have a hard time distinguishing the plots. Brave New World was an excellent book imo, but I can see whay people wouldnt like it.


Aldus Huxley is a genious, some of the things I find out about him are amazing. Did you know he was nearly blind? He could basically only see some colours. Then he found someone claiming he could train his eyes to see again and so he took his advice and cured his own blindness. Apparently he invented the word "Agnostic". There's countless other fastenating things about the guy. I really want to read a few more books by him, my sister collects them all, heh.


I really enjoyed his writing style in Brave New World, but I can see what people would have against him. He was incredibly smart, and everything I read in Brave New World seemed legit, from the advanced Scientifical references to the psychology references. I took a psych class, and saw a lot of ideas and theries in his writing, and then a whole bunch of chemistry stuff that he wasnt just making up. His overall knowledge impresses me. And the fact that he has an amazing writing style that interested me from beginning to end.

#100955 by Spinalcold
Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:39 pm
EternalMetal wrote:I really enjoyed his writing style in Brave New World, but I can see what people would have against him. He was incredibly smart, and everything I read in Brave New World seemed legit, from the advanced Scientifical references to the psychology references. I took a psych class, and saw a lot of ideas and theries in his writing, and then a whole bunch of chemistry stuff that he wasnt just making up. His overall knowledge impresses me. And the fact that he has an amazing writing style that interested me from beginning to end.


I was actually surprised how easy a read Brave New World was, but I agree, it's not for everyone. He's idea's would go over a lot of peoples heads, and I'm sure I missed a lot of what he was going for. And it would probably be much more so in his other books. I consider myself smart (no genious though, heh), but I don't think I would be able to grasp all his idea's, he was just too far beyond the normal human.

#100984 by EternalMetal
Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:16 pm
Spinalcold wrote:
EternalMetal wrote:I really enjoyed his writing style in Brave New World, but I can see what people would have against him. He was incredibly smart, and everything I read in Brave New World seemed legit, from the advanced Scientifical references to the psychology references. I took a psych class, and saw a lot of ideas and theries in his writing, and then a whole bunch of chemistry stuff that he wasnt just making up. His overall knowledge impresses me. And the fact that he has an amazing writing style that interested me from beginning to end.


I was actually surprised how easy a read Brave New World was, but I agree, it's not for everyone. He's idea's would go over a lot of peoples heads, and I'm sure I missed a lot of what he was going for. And it would probably be much more so in his other books. I consider myself smart (no genious though, heh), but I don't think I would be able to grasp all his idea's, he was just too far beyond the normal human.


It wasnt too tough of a read, but some people could find his style boring and feel as though the climax was not existant. The Brave New World revisited was a very tough read, did you read that? You have to read some sentences 3 or 4 times to completely comprehend it. I could never write like that.

#100995 by Spinalcold
Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:27 pm
EternalMetal wrote:It wasnt too tough of a read, but some people could find his style boring and feel as though the climax was not existant. The Brave New World revisited was a very tough read, did you read that? You have to read some sentences 3 or 4 times to completely comprehend it. I could never write like that.


It's somewhere in my stack of "to read" 's. Damn pile keeps getting higher instead of shorter.

#101049 by Brainwashed
Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:22 am
EternalMetal wrote:
Spinalcold wrote:
EternalMetal wrote:I really enjoyed his writing style in Brave New World, but I can see what people would have against him. He was incredibly smart, and everything I read in Brave New World seemed legit, from the advanced Scientifical references to the psychology references. I took a psych class, and saw a lot of ideas and theries in his writing, and then a whole bunch of chemistry stuff that he wasnt just making up. His overall knowledge impresses me. And the fact that he has an amazing writing style that interested me from beginning to end.


I was actually surprised how easy a read Brave New World was, but I agree, it's not for everyone. He's idea's would go over a lot of peoples heads, and I'm sure I missed a lot of what he was going for. And it would probably be much more so in his other books. I consider myself smart (no genious though, heh), but I don't think I would be able to grasp all his idea's, he was just too far beyond the normal human.


It wasnt too tough of a read, but some people could find his style boring and feel as though the climax was not existant. The Brave New World revisited was a very tough read, did you read that? You have to read some sentences 3 or 4 times to completely comprehend it. I could never write like that.


Well, I actually really enjoyed the sneaky allusions Huxley would use in Brave New World, most obvious of those was about communism (i.e. Marx, Lenin-a). But still, I just don't really like his style, even if it is fairly easy to read. His character development left much to be desired; I really didn't feel connected to any character, especially John.

#105765 by simen_88
Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:44 pm
I've started reading dry, boring books. Right now, I'm reading Machiavelli's Il Principe and a book on arranging music for marching bands. Whenever I get the time, though, I'll start on Crime and Punishment.

#105887 by Matthijs K.
Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:40 am
doomsoldier wrote:Read House Of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski.

Best book ever. I've read it five times now, which says a lot, because I rarely ever re-read books at all. It's Laberynthine in it's depth and scope. It's leaves potential for endless discussion over the nuances of the plot. And some of the actual writing techniques are like none I have ever seen before.

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Indeed, this is also my favourite book of all time. It totally unique and it's obsessively detailed and compelling. It keeps invading your thoughts for a long time. Mandatory reading. :)

#105986 by Sowdust
Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:02 pm
Tracy wrote:
EternalMetal wrote:A book i just recently read. Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Highly recommended, excellent book. If you have ever read 1984, this book is a thousand times better. It really puts society into perspective, and considering the time it was written, it has been a scary prediction of what our world has become.


I read that but had just read Ayn Rand's "Anthem" right before it and they are almost the same story.


Anthem is one of my all time favourite anticipation book (I must be the only one to have ever heard of Ayn Rand in France, lol!). But I would list: Dune, Hyperion, and everything by Philip K. Dick.

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