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Greek references in DTB

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:17 am
by Snaga
wuts up guys.
So this is kind of a physicist/Terria question. At the end of tiny tears Devy sings 'kurie eleison' which means god bless in greek.
Now, does anyone know what Devin means by Namaste? Because "na'maste", which is actually 2 words in greek means 'hear we are.' the lyrics to Namaste kind of make sense that way, but Namaste in the song may mean something completely different.
This isn't really a big deal, but i'm just curious.. anyone know what is meant by namaste in the song?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:19 am
by Snaga
oops, na'maste means "here we are", not "hear we are".. my bad

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:27 am
by IBrokeAString
isn't NAMASTE also a Hinduist greeting?

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/article/namaste

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:12 am
by Guest
Namaste is a yoga position :

"Literally, “I bow to you.” Used as a respectful greeting and also to mean thank you. When you say namaste in thanking your teacher at the end of class, you press your palms together (also called Anjali mudra) at your heart or your third eye (middle of the forehead) and bow your head. Although namaste is the greeting and Anjali mudra the position of the hands, they are often conflated and Anjali mudra has come to be called namaste position or prayer position. However, the position need not be associated with Western ideas about prayer"

:zen:

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:36 am
by hairy
If I'm right, during the writing process, the song was called "Mama's days".
this is serious.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:40 am
by IBrokeAString
*screams*
rrrememberr maaamaaaa's dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyys!!!

hey, it works! :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:48 pm
by simen_88
Oh my fucking gods, that sounds terrible! And namaste is indeed a greeting. It means something along the lines of "I recognize the divine in both of us, and I respect it".

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 3:58 pm
by flood_of_rain
:smokeweed:
this is like one big head trip, man.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 4:17 pm
by psychotic
Of course, I could just go ahead and bring up what was brought up in the last conversation on Namaste, the Simpsons reference. Anyway, I've also heard something along the lines of it meaning something about the light of the world shining on you. I really don't know, just seems like it has an awful lot of meanings.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:05 pm
by Metalmonkey
IBrokeAString wrote:*screams*
rrrememberr maaamaaaa's dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyys!!!

hey, it works! :lol:


:lol: i'm gonna hear that eveytime i listen to the song now!!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:09 pm
by Woocifer
I bow to the devine in you.

And actually I think the song was supposed to be called Eating Cake

REMEMBER EATINNGGGGG CAAAAAAAAEEEEEEK

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:39 pm
by gurp13
From The Catholic Encyclopedia (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08714a.htm)...
"Kyrie Eleison (Greek for "Lord have mercy"; the Latin transliteration supposes a pronunciation as in Modern Greek) is a very old, even pre-Christian, expression used constantly in all Christian liturgies. Arrian quotes it in the second century: "Invoking God we say Kyrie Eleison" (Diatribæ Epicteti, II, 7). A more obvious precedent for Christian use was the occurrence of the same formula in the Old Testament (Psalm 4:2, 6:3, 9:14, 25:11, 121:3; Isaias 33:2; Tobit 8:10; etc., in the Septuagint). In these places it seems already to be a quasi-liturgical exclamation. So also in the New Testament the form occurs repeatedly (Matthew 9:27, 20:30, 15:22; Mark 10:47; Luke 16:24, 17:13). The only difference is that all these cases have an accusative after the verb: Kyrie eleison me, or eleison hemas. The liturgical forumula is shortened from this."

Maybe that helps? :-)

What it all means, I'm not sure. But, I'm fairly certain that if Devin is taking a very common Catholic phrase and putting it in a song that he knows what it means. What it means to us, now, is the question.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:05 pm
by powercozmic
I belong to south India.
Namaste means "Greetings" in a lot of Indian languages. And "OM" is ancient hindu meditational chanting in praise of God.
Dunno what Dev had in mind - the Indian namaste or the Greek one.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:10 am
by Devinaddicted_Nils
there's also a greeting that's called Namaskar or something like that. This honours the one you're talking to quite more than Namaste.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:19 pm
by simen_88
I thought that if you want to honor the person, you bend your head so much your hands touch your forehead? And if you're talking to a god, you touch the top of your head?