http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PRJ8ZWL0

w00t.

no access atm, unfortunately. your strange music always rocks my socks, pal

=D thanks Ike! I'm designing a bunch of weird tracks at the moment. most of it will be heavy as hell, but other tracks will be lighter and more layered. either way, it's going to be pandemonium.

listening right now... you dig distortion, yes? it's a bit much (obviously on purpose), but as far as i can tell without my usual stereo system and only the lap top speakers, the guitar tone does work well.

that track is pretty short. post some more, will ya?

I love the idea... Smashing everything with distortion... Although i think it's a bit overdone with the hats and snare.. Otherwise great stuff!

blarg, I need some time xP

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FA7UK002

this will definitely be the opener. I've finally decided. Screw the distortion thingy, because it is a bit too much and it is a bit overdone.

would anyone be willing to do some bass work for me if I give them tabs? because I have no bass guiutar as of yet and therefore cannot do any bass. I'll do all the mixing, it's just the bass I need doing badly, because the songs sound pretty empty without a bit of bass to back them up =/.

actually, better idea, I'll make a topic about it.

how come whenever I post something else nobody listens =[.

how come whenever I post something else nobody listens =[.

Relax, it hasn't been that long since your last post.

Interesting songs-- The tone works fairly well on the first one, but some of the playing is really off beat. (The part around 9/10 seconds for example) Also, the guitars (sounds like one guitar with one channel delayed slightly to widen it, actually) got really centered at the end, just randomly-- Are these things intentional? I suppose it sort of works with the very rough, harsh, distorted production which was previously mentioned as well, but I figured I'd ask.

The second-- Scattered Stones-- is a little better in terms of sound. My main problem is the vocals, though... You sing far too quietly, as if you're terrified of being heard by someone else. Each line is often started at what might be a satisfactory volume, but then you always suddenly get really quiet as if someone just walked in the room and hold that for the rest of the line. Also, and this may just be me, but it seems like you're trying to do the whole James Hetfield inflection a bit too much. You don't have a bad voice, though-- You do hit most of the notes, and with some practice for singing more forcefully you could probably improve a whole lot.

One last thing, though. You might want to get some better samples for your drums; right now they just sound like generic midi samples. Drum programming can definitely work, but in my opinion it either needs to sound really, really mechanical and fake (like a lot of industrial music-- using unconventional sounds as drum samples is also another way to pull it off) or be really well programmed and pretty much sound like a real kit, which is extremely difficult to do.

Sorry if I came off as harsh (maybe I'm just mean ), perhaps I'm just not into the style. The excessively low guitars were a bit much as well; I dunno what you're tuned to-- drop A on a 7-string maybe? --but without good recording equipment it's often hard to get something that low to sound like much but nearly-atonal grinding. Of course, that may be part of the style, so I won't fault you on that. I'm just saying you might want to consider tuning up a bit or using the higher strings.

alright bro, since that mean bean josiah was so harsh to you, and since i do dig the style, here's the kind review from me.

first off, i'd say it's just a demo, since the whole production sounds like it's more a rough sketch than the real deal. but on the other hand, i know your midi stuff
what i really like about it, and what makes it much more appealing to me than the first track you posted, is that 8-bit synth in the background. have you ever played mega man II on the nes? i bet you did
the combination of those sounds (and also the harmonies they play) with the metal-ish instruments and the smooth singing is really cool.
it just needs some fine tuning here and there.

first off, i must join josiah regarding the drums: get BFD or DKfH or something and use some decent sounds. then, check the "devin on production" section of the boards for some info on how to make the guitars thicker. my first idea is: less gain, better compression. but you'll need some time to find your way to the good tune.
at last, find a place where you can sing to the max. your voice is very pleasant (at least i think so), but it would be excellent if you pushed yourself a bit more.

so my rating for the demo is like 8/10 for the atmosphere and idea, and also your voice.
for a finished track, i'd recommend you this:

1. make the metal MUCH more massive. the guitars should be warm, thick, very present and absolutely in sync with the drumming. that doesn't necessarily mean that the tunes sounds aggressive or so. listen to ziltoid for reference.
if you find a bass player, he or she should play something percussive and use a sound that's different from the guitars AND the synths.
i already mentioned the drums.

2. keep the synths like they are, or if you change them, keep that old skool-nintendo feel.

3. the effects you use on the vocals in the last bit of the track are great. eyperiment with them and use them more often.

when you've got all that done and the whole thing sounds really good, it might need some extra white noise and cracking little sounds all over it to stress the unworldly, strange atmosphere.

in closing, this track already tronsports an interesting atmosphere of a living, emotional quality among weird, alien structures or so. that's cool. (if you get what i mean)
but as it is now, it's like a pencil sketch, where a painting should be. and i mean like oil on canvas, dark colours, dust of centuries on it nstuff.

so my review for the song itself is: great potential, but now get your butt in gear and do some production!

alright bro, since that mean bean josiah was so harsh to you, and since i do dig the style, here's the kind review from me.

Aw c'mon!
I probably did come off as a bit harsher than I intended to sound, and I was mainly referring to the parts I mentioned when I said I may not be into the style. Your songwriting is strong and you have potential with your voice (just make sure to sing naturally and with more strength), I was just offering some constructive criticism to help you improve. I'm definitely not the best at it though, so sorry again if I was being a dick.

alright bro, since that mean bean josiah was so harsh to you, and since i do dig the style, here's the kind review from me.

first off, i'd say it's just a demo, since the whole production sounds like it's more a rough sketch than the real deal. but on the other hand, i know your midi stuff
what i really like about it, and what makes it much more appealing to me than the first track you posted, is that 8-bit synth in the background. have you ever played mega man II on the nes? i bet you did
the combination of those sounds (and also the harmonies they play) with the metal-ish instruments and the smooth singing is really cool.
it just needs some fine tuning here and there.

first off, i must join josiah regarding the drums: get BFD or DKfH or something and use some decent sounds. then, check the "devin on production" section of the boards for some info on how to make the guitars thicker. my first idea is: less gain, better compression. but you'll need some time to find your way to the good tune.
at last, find a place where you can sing to the max. your voice is very pleasant (at least i think so), but it would be excellent if you pushed yourself a bit more.

so my rating for the demo is like 8/10 for the atmosphere and idea, and also your voice.
for a finished track, i'd recommend you this:

1. make the metal MUCH more massive. the guitars should be warm, thick, very present and absolutely in sync with the drumming. that doesn't necessarily mean that the tunes sounds aggressive or so. listen to ziltoid for reference.
if you find a bass player, he or she should play something percussive and use a sound that's different from the guitars AND the synths.
i already mentioned the drums.

2. keep the synths like they are, or if you change them, keep that old skool-nintendo feel.

3. the effects you use on the vocals in the last bit of the track are great. eyperiment with them and use them more often.

when you've got all that done and the whole thing sounds really good, it might need some extra white noise and cracking little sounds all over it to stress the unworldly, strange atmosphere.

in closing, this track already tronsports an interesting atmosphere of a living, emotional quality among weird, alien structures or so. that's cool. (if you get what i mean)
but as it is now, it's like a pencil sketch, where a painting should be. and i mean like oil on canvas, dark colours, dust of centuries on it nstuff.

so my review for the song itself is: great potential, but now get your butt in gear and do some production!

I know what you mean about the whole crappy drums thing, but these are simply demos which I'm gonna get my whole band to play, and actually enter a recording studio with. I'm not entering a studio with my band until the whole album is done though, but I still need a "yay or nay" opinion from the members of this site. and to josiah, you're spot on with the fact that the drums sound like MIDI, that being because they ARE MIDI, mainly because I no longer have cubase =[, otherwise lm7 would've come in handy.

EDIT: I'm officially gonna ditch the vocals until recording studio, because it's actually the mic which is stopping the vocals from working with the music, since for some reason it's muffling them a bit which in turn makes the words a lot less clear, or something like that.
that's just an opener anyhow, the rest of the album will be more like this: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YQSIVJL9

alright bro, since that mean bean josiah was so harsh to you, and since i do dig the style, here's the kind review from me.

Aw c'mon!
I probably did come off as a bit harsher than I intended to sound, and I was mainly referring to the parts I mentioned when I said I may not be into the style. Your songwriting is strong and you have potential with your voice (just make sure to sing naturally and with more strength), I was just offering some constructive criticism to help you improve. I'm definitely not the best at it though, so sorry again if I was being a dick.

whew, was the mild irony too mild in the end? of course it's all fun!

@ the yeast: so you're doing the real thing in a studio? that's cool! and for that purpose, the midi drums will do. it's still good to have a proper pre-prroduction, though. but considering the rise of quality in your recent output, there's no need to worry

keep us informed aboot teh progress, will ya? - hehe, of course you will

alright bro, since that mean bean josiah was so harsh to you, and since i do dig the style, here's the kind review from me.

Aw c'mon!
I probably did come off as a bit harsher than I intended to sound, and I was mainly referring to the parts I mentioned when I said I may not be into the style. Your songwriting is strong and you have potential with your voice (just make sure to sing naturally and with more strength), I was just offering some constructive criticism to help you improve. I'm definitely not the best at it though, so sorry again if I was being a dick.

whew, was the mild irony too mild in the end? of course it's all fun!

@ the yeast: so you're doing the real thing in a studio? that's cool! and for that purpose, the midi drums will do. it's still good to have a proper pre-prroduction, though. but considering the rise of quality in your recent output, there's no need to worry

keep us informed aboot teh progress, will ya? - hehe, of course you will

there isn't much I wouldn't tell everyone about anyway =D. I do need that post I did by accident in your topic removed though =/, somehow.
it'll never reach the incredible heights of Knorke Suedfrucht though! =D