HEVYDEVY FORUMS

Guess who is first on the list.

http://www.the-trukstop.com/articles/20 ... _true.html

List is bit shit, I think Henry Rollins and Faith No More aren't that metal, and Carcass' transition to melodeath probably caused lots of "sell out" accusations from dissapointed grindheads. Also whole "sell out" term is overused nonsense.

But it's still nice reading, especially with embedded youtube videos.

I skipped over it and obviously they mixed up Testament's 'The Ritual' with their debut album 'The Legacy'. Doh.

AC/DC?! I've always considered them as Hard Rock, not exactly metal. Cool to see SYL making the tippity-top, though.

"...and you will find that it's probably impractical for a band like Dream Theater to even consider selling out."

yeah right

the list is a stupid idea. i read a few of them and then stopped.

Slayer's not a sellout? yeah right.

....so what exactly counts as being a sell-out? Making money with your songs? Having lots of succes and fans? Becoming an idol for millions of fans and musicians?
I don't really understand.
In my opinion, the only way you can 'sell out', is by not using your creativity and feeling anymore in making music, but only playing music just for the money, without having ANY connection to the music at all.
Well, I don't know a lot of bands who fall under this category, to be honest. Especially not in metal, which has a HUGE fan base.

Changing your sound/direction/style for the purpose of garnering popularity/money/fans. That's how I see it, at least.

Or not changing your sound for the same purpose.

...or writing music that you don't agree with, also for the same purpose. I always thought Slayer were huge sellouts, what with Tom Araya being a devout catholic or whatever he is.

dumb idea for an article (seriously its probably just a bunch of bands that the author likes) + bad list of bands = fail

also if by calling Dream Theater the finest progressive metal band they really mean that DT pretty much killed the genre, then yeah they're right.

Edit: Nevermind this post

dying is basically = selling out

fullgore wrote:...or writing music that you don't agree with

I think that's most popular form of "sell out"

fullgore wrote:what with Tom Araya being a devout catholic or whatever he is.

Now that's just odd. Didn't know that.

fullgore wrote:Or not changing your sound for the same purpose.

...or writing music that you don't agree with, also for the same purpose. I always thought Slayer were huge sellouts, what with Tom Araya being a devout catholic or whatever he is.

Yeah, he's Catholic.
To quote his opinion of the song/album title "God Hates Us All," spoken in the DVD "A Headbanger's Journey:"
"God doesn't hate. He loves everybody. But fuck, I thought "That's gonna piss a lot of people off. Let's do it!""

And, of course, for a band like Slayer, pissing people off means free advertising for their albums to the people they want to buy them.

The thing with Araya seems weird. I read the first interview where he revealed this in a Swedish magazine. And it was...kind of hard to understand. The way he it put there was that he wasn't like a traditional Catholic. He did believe there was some guardian force or something but felt that it was his task to sing about evil. He strongly believed in prophecies too. Mentioned Nostradamus etc. It seemed a bit like an own twist on things. He talked a lot about it there. Maybe it's more straightforward lately?

And about selling out. That's a hard question. It's always a hard thing for underground bands to change a bit. Since there will be a lot of crap guaranteed from fans. Sometimes I wish that I started in something more easy on the ears, kind of like Devin. It's easier to play more extreme music after that than the other way round when it comes to fans if you catch my drift?

A band like Darkthrone on the other hand is almost considered a sellout by some since they released their first video recently (and changed the music slightly to something more punkish).

Good to see Mortal Sin made the list.

There are heaps of other bands out there that haven't sold out quite yet. I have my own definition of being a "sell out" but I usually see people who are not sell outs have a more underground sound in which only a small group of people would like the musicians music.