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#155574 by BrunoN
Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:23 am
Guess who is first on the list.

http://www.the-trukstop.com/articles/20 ... _true.html

List is bit shit, I think Henry Rollins and Faith No More aren't that metal, and Carcass' transition to melodeath probably caused lots of "sell out" accusations from dissapointed grindheads. Also whole "sell out" term is overused nonsense.

But it's still nice reading, especially with embedded youtube videos.

#155580 by Das Schuetzenfest
Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:46 am
I skipped over it and obviously they mixed up Testament's 'The Ritual' with their debut album 'The Legacy'. Doh.

#155589 by TallNerdGuy
Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:19 am
AC/DC?! I've always considered them as Hard Rock, not exactly metal. Cool to see SYL making the tippity-top, though.

#155590 by Yanko
Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:06 am
"...and you will find that it's probably impractical for a band like Dream Theater to even consider selling out."

yeah right :lol:

#155591 by fullgore
Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:49 am
the list is a stupid idea. i read a few of them and then stopped.

Slayer's not a sellout? yeah right.

#155593 by Archetype
Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:59 am
....so what exactly counts as being a sell-out? Making money with your songs? Having lots of succes and fans? Becoming an idol for millions of fans and musicians?
I don't really understand.
In my opinion, the only way you can 'sell out', is by not using your creativity and feeling anymore in making music, but only playing music just for the money, without having ANY connection to the music at all.
Well, I don't know a lot of bands who fall under this category, to be honest. Especially not in metal, which has a HUGE fan base.

#155601 by Jörgg
Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:11 pm
Changing your sound/direction/style for the purpose of garnering popularity/money/fans. That's how I see it, at least.

#155603 by fullgore
Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:09 pm
Or not changing your sound for the same purpose.

...or writing music that you don't agree with, also for the same purpose. I always thought Slayer were huge sellouts, what with Tom Araya being a devout catholic or whatever he is.

#155605 by Noodles
Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:14 pm
dumb idea for an article (seriously its probably just a bunch of bands that the author likes) + bad list of bands = fail 8)

also if by calling Dream Theater the finest progressive metal band they really mean that DT pretty much killed the genre, then yeah they're right.

#155606 by ghaleon0075
Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:25 pm
Edit: Nevermind this post
Last edited by ghaleon0075 on Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.

#155613 by BrunoN
Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:23 am
fullgore wrote:...or writing music that you don't agree with


I think that's most popular form of "sell out" :)


fullgore wrote:what with Tom Araya being a devout catholic or whatever he is.


Now that's just odd. Didn't know that.

#155615 by Grimview
Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:03 am
fullgore wrote:Or not changing your sound for the same purpose.

...or writing music that you don't agree with, also for the same purpose. I always thought Slayer were huge sellouts, what with Tom Araya being a devout catholic or whatever he is.

Yeah, he's Catholic.
To quote his opinion of the song/album title "God Hates Us All," spoken in the DVD "A Headbanger's Journey:"
"God doesn't hate. He loves everybody. But fuck, I thought "That's gonna piss a lot of people off. Let's do it!""

And, of course, for a band like Slayer, pissing people off means free advertising for their albums to the people they want to buy them.

#155627 by Retribution
Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:35 am
The thing with Araya seems weird. I read the first interview where he revealed this in a Swedish magazine. And it was...kind of hard to understand. The way he it put there was that he wasn't like a traditional Catholic. He did believe there was some guardian force or something but felt that it was his task to sing about evil. He strongly believed in prophecies too. Mentioned Nostradamus etc. It seemed a bit like an own twist on things. He talked a lot about it there. Maybe it's more straightforward lately?

And about selling out. That's a hard question. It's always a hard thing for underground bands to change a bit. Since there will be a lot of crap guaranteed from fans. Sometimes I wish that I started in something more easy on the ears, kind of like Devin. It's easier to play more extreme music after that than the other way round when it comes to fans if you catch my drift?

A band like Darkthrone on the other hand is almost considered a sellout by some since they released their first video recently (and changed the music slightly to something more punkish).

#155631 by black_tooth_grin
Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:00 am
Good to see Mortal Sin made the list.

There are heaps of other bands out there that haven't sold out quite yet. I have my own definition of being a "sell out" but I usually see people who are not sell outs have a more underground sound in which only a small group of people would like the musicians music.

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