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Foreigners english

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:49 am
by Kivenkantaja
I've been wondering how much do bad english irritate people if english is your native language. Can you tell the difference in music? If a foreigner would try to sing in finnish I would propably die laughing :D

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:00 am
by Dunkelheit
truth is i have seen many a case in which a "native english speaker" speaks and writes in a disastrous manner

but i digress

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:04 am
by fragility
I have a deep hatred for foreign people on the internet...cos 90% of them are so good at english i can't tell that it isnt their first language!! Damn you talented people! :) I can barely string 2 words together in french

Re: Foreigners english

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:13 am
by Kivenkantaja
Kivenkantaja wrote:I've been wondering how much do bad english irritate people if english is your native language. Can you tell the difference in music? If a foreigner would try to sing in finnish I would propably die laughing :D

Could someone count writing errors/mistakes? I'm sure there's more than five :D

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:17 am
by Dunkelheit
what am i your personal clown?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:23 am
by Kivenkantaja
Dunkelheit wrote:what am i your personal clown?
if you want to

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:26 am
by Dunkelheit
if i werent horrendously terrified of them, i would rejoice in being your clown, the heavens know i would

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:33 am
by Blazingmonga
Bad English never annoys me really. I'm with fragility here...I am in no position to complain about others language abilities considering the state of my own.

Most people here (99% even) have very good english. Infact it is certainly the case that there are more people with bad english who speak it as a first language than those who speak it as a second.

If that makes sense.

Damn, typing sucks. Cant we just use phones?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:38 am
by Kivenkantaja
Blazingmonga wrote:Bad English never annoys me really.

Would a good song with bad/childish lyrics annoy you?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:58 am
by Blazingmonga
I might find it funny, but it would only annoy me if it was actually a bad song, regardless of the language.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:18 am
by Ike
Blazingmonga wrote:Bad English never annoys me really. I'm with fragility here...I am in no position to complain about others language abilities considering the state of my own.

Most people here (99% even) have very good english. Infact it is certainly the case that there are more people with bad english who speak it as a first language than those who speak it as a second.

If that makes sense.


makes total sense, as people who are intelligent and/or educated enough to learn a foreign language usually have a feel for grammar and are also good in speaking their own tongue. (i'm so damn clever and educated, yeah! :P )

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:36 am
by Falk
fragility wrote:I can barely string 2 words together in french


I can :mrgreen: :night:

Well more seriously, yup', many non-english board members speak english pretty well.
I mean I don't think I'm too bad at english, but anyway I'm still far from using it percfectly (particularly everything more familiar, specific, and expressions...) and I don't really see how I could achieve this step without spending some time in an english country.
Ok I chose english as second language (took german as first... :roll: nothing against german, but all I learned during 7 school years pretty much vanished now... except maybe "Hallo, Stephen, willst du fussball spielen ?" :P "Das telephon klingelt" and a few more...), but even if I had taken english as my 1st language in school, I don't think I could be really that much better at it than I am now. Also I remember the german were way better at french than we (frenchies) were at german... So maybe the french system sucks...

Concerning music, I don't really know bands with a bad english, except the Mad Capsule Markets maybe, but I hardly understand whatever they say^^

What bothers me is when someone uses SMS language (well whatever it's called in english, turning you to u etc etc...), it's way harder to understand.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:10 pm
by Kivenkantaja
Falk wrote:Concerning music, I don't really know bands with a bad english, except the Mad Capsule Markets maybe, but I hardly understand whatever they say^^

Have anybody heard new Norther? "Till Death Unites Us" is the name of their new album. I think that "till" is swedish but I'm not sure cause I can't speak is at all. Anyway there's one song where "last time" is said about 7 times in one chorus. Something like that can easily ruin any song.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:28 pm
by psychotic
One of my best friends is a girl from Poland who moved here in the summer of 2001. I've known her since early 2002, and from the moment I met her I've told her that her English is better than mine.

In America, the English is very poor, for one reason there is all of the other cultures and languages in here, with the integration of them we get a change in our form of the English language, and also we just don't seem to care about our language as much.

My problems are more in that I think very fast and try to get my mouth to move just as fast, and it never works. It comes out like a bunch of jibberish when I'm either excited or drunk.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:33 pm
by Kivenkantaja
Some people say that english is a dying language, just word after word.