[Blazingmonga]

Just curious, but are there any vinyl fans out there?

Also, I have been thinking in investing in a turntable, can anyone here recommend anything in the cheap to cheap-ish range?

I am tempted by: http://ws4.richersounds.com/showproduct ... =MARA-TT42

Marantz have always been good to me.

I dont want to get into vinyl because I believe to be a better format or anything, I just want to be able to listen to all the cheap fun stuff in charity shops (and maybe my Alien vinyl finally!).

I have some vinyl, in weird kind of way.

In my last house my housemate had a record player. He let me borrow it because I am a full on Wildhearts collector, and they have several songs only available on vinyl (or hard to get hold of japanese cd) so I have about 5 records (including the Biffy Clyro Glitter and Trauma single)

Anyway. He moved down the street. I kept hold of it. He never asked for it back (it was his ex-girlfriends), he got arrested for growing cannibus, legged it back to London, and now i own a record player.

Can't answer any of your questions, but i thought i'd chip in.

I think that vinyl has way better sound quality than CD. A friend of mine, stereo obsessed chap sat me through an introduction to "why this sounds better than CD" and I was blown away completely. Granted, he's got a 180,000 dollar sound system that helped, but there was no room to compare the two formats.
Vinyl sounded clear, crisp and with substance. CD, with best recording systems (can't remember what they call it) sounded almost flat compared to vinyl....My ear is not trained at all, but I could tell there was a big difference.

Just proves that old stuff is just made better. See all my rants about film VS digicrap.

[Blazingmonga]

Just proves that old stuff is just made better. See all my rants about film VS digicrap.

Heehee...same sort of argument I suppose!

Well, I think vinyl appeals to me most because I love the feel of the things. I love that they need care and attention, and that they need to be cleaned.

Though I am a bit strange like that.

Also, the Oxfam across the road has about 10 Judas Priest albums on vinyl for only a few pounds each...and a huuuuuuuge prog rock section. All fun stuff!

I agree with you.
Things today are all fast fast fast. Purity of art and the exercise of it is almost lost....We part with the old for something new that we think is good because of advertisement. iPod for example, everyone and their dog has an iPod here in Toronto, HUGE wall covered posters n walls of buildings....That doesn't make it the best product out there, yet people buy it because they think it is.

There's such a huge compromise of integrity.....I can go on and on....Fak.

*Not to start a debate with iPod lovers, just an example. I could have used Nike shoes just as well I suppose.

Although what i am about to say is on the other side of the vinyl/cd debate, i agree with liking looking after things and physically having them. My friends seem confused that i genuinely don't want any form of mp3 player/ipod etc. I just want a portable cd player. I'm happy taking a cd off my rack, putting it in, going, and looking at the sleeve/artwork/track listing. A whole bunch of albums in purely digital format? Needing a computer to get them ready? *Shudder* no thank you.

[Blazingmonga]

I agree with you.
Things today are all fast fast fast. Purity of art and the exercise of it is almost lost....We part with the old for something new that we think is good because of advertisement. iPod for example, everyone and their dog has an iPod here in Toronto, HUGE wall covered posters n walls of buildings....That doesn't make it the best product out there, yet people buy it because they think it is.

There's such a huge compromise of integrity.....I can go on and on....Fak.

*Not to start a debate with iPod lovers, just an example. I could have used Nike shoes just as well I suppose.

Absolutely! We have whole buildings (I mean, 6 - 7 stories) advertising the new iPod. It is forced down your throat practically. I still use my MiniDisc player...how un-cool is that! Ha!

Same with the drawings I do...some people assume that I have produced them using photoshop, or touched them up somehow. I love saying "No, I didnt. I took a long, long time getting them like this. I did it in the most difficult way possibly!"

In a related note, I have been collecting bits of brass from charity shops and spending hours cleaning and polishing them until they are as bright as can be. Why? Because it makes me happy to start with something dirty, worthless and irrelevant and end up with something really beautiful.

And I have a friend who gets the same satisfaction from cleaning his vinyl!

(see what I did there? I went from one topic, to another and back again! Hahah!)

i was always an "oldschool" music fan, so always preferred analog over digital. I knew that there was some difference in vinyls, but could never have a comparacy with mp3 or other form of digital recording. Then after i bought ELP's Tarkus for 10 bucks from some random dude selling old vinyls on the street, and listened to it, my jaw dropped to the floor. I could hear every single vibration, the sound could even have less quality, but still, it sounded MUCH MORE live.

Now i always try to have spare 10 bucks in case i see some random dude selling old prog vinyls

Yeah even legos suck nowadays.
A few years ago for 40€ you had the biggest spaceship of whatever space-faction available at that time, with lot of parts etc etc...
Now for the same price you have a crappy part of a sub meant to represent a part of spiderman whatever...
Or some harry bolter stuff with so few parts that I wouldn't even considere it a construction game...
Don't even ask them to built a kit...
We all want stuff "as is"...
Even on messageboards, typing on keyboard is way faster than writing with a pen, but then we even cut the words so that it's not even recognisable and soon foreigners who learn our native language will write it better than ourselves...

Oh well I'm ranting again and a bit off topic with my lego stories :p but that's it... I'm all for progress and technology but it's always the same in this stupid world, we can never do things in decent proportions, it's always one way or the other...

About vinyls, I just ordered the Alien one... Now waiting^^

I dig vinyl, I buy tons of the stuff. Some things sound better on disk and some things sound better on vinyl, but the artwork always looks better in the large format. Hip hop is particulaly good on record.

[Blazingmonga]

I think that if I get a turntable it would be so that I could listen to music that I wouldnt normally listen to, not so that I could compare it to CD.

So the example I gave is music in charity shops, as there is so much cheap vinyl out there.

I do definately dig the artwork. I used to love browsing through my Dad's vinyl so I could look at all the awesome artwork.

I still buy vinyl quite often, yet I haven't owned a record player for 10 years at least! Here's what I have, there's some good shit here, but also some weird random shit that I don't know where it came from. Goo Goo Dolls? Huh?

311 - Remixes (7" EP)
311 - Don't Tread On Me (7" Single)
Adios Gringo - Gringo De Facto (7" EP)
Adios Gringo - With Death Until Deaf (7" EP)
Beastie Boys - She's On It (7" Single)
Bricklayer - Thought Process (7" EP)
Crumbsuckers - Life Of Dreams (12" LP)
Def Leppard - High 'N' Dry (12" LP)
Def Leppard - Hysteria (12" LP)
Def Leppard - Hysteria (12" Picture Disc)
Def Leppard - Hysteria (7" Single)
Def Leppard - On Through The Night (12" LP)
Def Leppard - Pyromania (12" LP, Sealed)
Def Leppard - Pyromania (12" LP)
Def Leppard - Rocket (Lunar Mix) (12" Single)
Def Leppard - Tell Tales Interview 1989 (12" Limited Edition "Bat-Shaped" Picture Disc)
Def Leppard - Tell Tales Interview 1989 (12" Limited Edition "Saw-Shaped" Picture Disc)
Def Leppard - Tell Tales Interview 1989 (12" Limited Edition Picture Disc)
Def Leppard - Wasted (7" Single)
Downset - About Ta Blast (7" EP)
Ednaswap - Clown Show (7" Single)
Faith No More - Falling To Pieces (7" Single)
Goo Goo Dolls - Only One (7" Single)
Green Day - Slappy (7" EP)
Gruntruck - Above Me (7" Single)
Mary Beats Jane - Weasel/Scarecrow (7" Single)
Monster Magnet - Cage Around The Sun (7" Single)
Mutha's Day Out - Locked (10" Single)
Mutha's Day Out - My Soul Is Wet (10" Single)
Nirvana - All Apologies (7" Single)
Nirvana - Pack Of 4 (7" EP)
Nudeswirl - Taking All Bets (7" EP w/The Blisters)
Offspring, The - Baghdad (7" EP)
Offspring, The - They Were Born To Kill (7" EP)
One Minute Silence - I Wear My Skin (7" Silence)
One Minute Silence - Revolution (10" Single)
Operation Ivy - Hectic (7" EP)
Pantera - I Am The Night (12" LP)
Pantera - Metal Magic (12" LP)
Pantera - Power Metal (12" LP)
Pantera - Projects In The Jungle (12" LP)
R.E.M. - The One I Love (7" Single)
Removal - Removal (7" Single feat. Devin Townsend)
Revolvers - She's Out Of Your Life (7" EP)
Run DMC - Mary Mary (7" Single)
Run DMC - My Adidas (7" Single)
Run DMC - Walk This Way (7" Single)
Said & Done - Said & Done (7" EP)
Skid Row - 18 And Life (7" Single)
Skid Row - Wasted Time (7" Single)
Stompbox - Pick It Up (7" EP)
Strife - Grey (7" Single)
Strife - My Fire Burns On (7" EP)
Strife - Strife (7" EP)
Supermarket All-Stars - 10" Split EP w/Injury
System Of A Down - Sugar (7" Single, Limited To 50)
System Of A Down - Toxicity (7" Single)
Tad - Loser (7" EP)
Tad - Pale Corkscrew (7" Single)
Tad - Salem (7" EP)
Ten Yard Fight - Demo 1995 (7" EP)
Testament - Live At Eindhoven (12" EP)
Testament - Trial By Fire (12" Single)
Therapy? - Face The Strange (12" EP)
Therapy? - Semi-Detached (Six Single 7" Box)
Therapy? - Shortsharpshock (12" EP)
Therapy? - Teethgrinder (12" Remix Single)
Therapy? - Teethgrinder (7" Single)
White Zombie - Zombie Kiss (7" EP)
Wicker Man - Shitkicker (7" Single)

ive always loved, never had a chance to buy it until now, dad has some 20something year old player, and that works like a treat there is a store just outside of melbourne ive been meaning to goto and check out some King Crimson and see if its affordable.

currently i have:

Steven Wilson - Unreleased Electronic Music
Strapping Young Lad - Alien
Porcupine Tree - Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape

not very big is it?!?

just one thing: wasn't alien recorded/mastered digitally?

i used to work at a electronuic store in the music/film dept. thwere was guy in audio dept who wanted to get rid of his vinyl so for 25bucks i got close to 300 records and he tossed in little over 100 45s. so stuff i have on cd some obscure i have to look them up others are almost the artisit entire catalog. the zappa stuff stays in the dark place lol. i look through some of them and post asome of the obsure ones and ones another day for fun.