Without modern medicine I'd be dead now, so they've earned my trust.

Modern medicine or pharmacuetical companies?

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I think it's funny what some people think is a 'conspiracy'. Interesting word to break down. Con Spira C Y

The term does get loosely thrown around. I think that wanting to know what you're being injected with isn't a conspiracy.

If you want conspiracies then you need to bring up Joseph Moshe. Now that's a real conspiracy.

Yeah it certainly does. I know there's lots of bad folks in the world, but I also know there's more great ones.

As part of my music, I need to believe in the good ones. In part, I had the shot as a leap of faith for my connection to other humans. Been a misanthrope for way too long.

On a side note, no one has any illness or pain...the only thing is, I got the kid to pull my finger and I cut a devastating fart that made him cry for 10 minutes.

Wait a couple more years until he's more aware of what's going on. Shots will be horrifying. At least, it is for my girls. Eventually they get old enough to where they get the "If I cry, I'm a wimp" psyche. But mine are five, and you feel so bad for them...it seems like such major trauma, even though it's really nothing. Actually, they did the "general" flu (doesn't feature the H1N1 upgrade). They got that one up the nose...not sure how that works. But it's those 4 other required vaccines, they had to get the shots in the upper thigh. You're holding their arms down, with your face in front of theirs, making a silly face, smiling, or whatever else. They start to giggle at you, and they feel so safe. And then all of the sudden "poke, stab, poke". WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Makes you feel like a failure and deceiver. Like, I'm suppose to protect you and instead I deceived you and you experienced pain.

Right, influenza is usually a four week process for the body. 3 week incubation period and the final week is when you have your symptoms and full-blown "flu". Human body takes 21 days to "process" the jab in order to build the antibodies against H1N1. So it could be coincidence that she got H1N1 a few days after taking the shot.

It could be pure coincidence that these people have gotten sick with flu or other side-effects (some mild, some deadly) after taking the shot. It could be coincidence that there are many reports from across Europe of women having miscarriages some days after taking the shot. I know of a few pregnant women who have taken the jab here and haven't had a single side effect.

I work in a home for handicapped patients. 95% of them took the jab last Monday. Side effects reported: all have a sore arm/shoulder, a few have had headaches all week, one fellow had a fever from Monday evening to Wednesday morning and another fellow.

Nothing major in 6 days. So I don't know. Could be bluffing or not.

A simple google search will bring the ingredients list for the vaccine. Here are a couple of sites.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_ ... lu_vaccine
http://www.infonews.co.nz/news.cfm?id=41227
http://preventdisease.com/news/09/08070 ... hype.shtml

I have never taken any influenza vaccines in my life and I rarely get sick. I personally believe that it really comes down to staying healthy. Eating properly balanced meals, getting a proper amount of sleep, eating vitamins and personal hygiene. If you get influenza you'll develop antibodies yourself and therefore make your own immune system stronger the natural way.

I don't care who takes and who doesn't take the vaccine for H1N1. I don't tell people not to take it. I just make sure people I care about the most know both sides of the "take/don't take" argument. I would *recommend* just from my own unprofessional research to try and get the vaccine without the adjuvant. This is the one that pregnant women around the world are recommended as well as government workers and military in Germany.

Just remember... influenza mutates!
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11280 ... lence.html

If you want conspiracies then you need to bring up Joseph Moshe. Now that's a real conspiracy.

Was it true Baxter sent H1N5 (bird flu) to the Ukraine labeled as H1N1 vaccines? (Maybe something worse looking at that dudes info), I got a quick report, now all the media from there is mixed and muddled.

It's old news here in the greatest country on Earth.




For the ignorant, it's Canada.

Canada, American's hat.

Logged on to this dudes site cause I thought he was producing a movie with merit, and was inviting input. Turns out it was just part of his mission. Haven't paid a lot of attention to it since. How ever, he's a 'conspiracy', watcher, and here's his take. Pretty full on if you do/can connect the dots. The 'conspiracy' nuts, believe the vaccine will damage your DNA. However if there is an agenda, maybe it's not damage, but affect in some way? Dunno, like some one else posted, I just try stay healthy by eating right. Although will be putting my faith in the hands of a surgeon soon, due to a physical ailment.




Hello Warriors,

This morning 11/29/09 I placed a new comment (w/ Videos) within "Full Disclosure" Part III. This is important.

(copy of comment posted)
I first sensed something was up with the H1N1 in August which led me to begin research and prompted me to write Preparation for 2012, Part II:
Calling Upon The Warrior Within. I then begun to track this story and
also realized that it tied overall into the NWO agenda as well as the
Alien Agenda. I had already knew from my own research that at the
higher ups within the illuminati or NWO, that they were not only in
communication with nefarious entities, that they worshiped them. This
then led me to begin "Full Disclosure" with Part I, Close Encounters of
the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, & 8th Kinds.

Our third Speaker in Part I was Dr. Bill Deagle. Also in Part I of
"Full Disclosure", within comments, I placed a news clip of CBS reports
on October 26. They also sensed something was very fishy with the H1N1
hype as the CDC wasn't responding to their questions (see video
there). Also in comments there, on November 1, 2009 I posted a video
of the Jane Burgermeister as I knew her research into the H1N1 as well
as her charges against the WHO, UN and others were important. My main
Forum Post continued with "Full Disclosure" Part II.

Speaker 10, William Bramely discussed that throughout history, before a
major plague, witnesses would see Men In Black out in the fields
spraying something. MIB of course are either the ETs themselves or
their human accomplishes. Also in Full Disclosure Part II, my
breakthrough discovery was Speakers 11) Alfred Webre interviews Joseph
Montaldo of ICAR. ICAR recent research revealed a common dream among
1/3 of their Abductee Case Files. That dream was that a biological
holocaust would be released. When the Abductees asked their Gray
abductors, who was responsible, they said it was the Reptilians. Of
course, when you connect the dots, research by David Icke and others
reveals that the illuminati and the NWO worship these same beings. In
Speaker section 13, we learned via remote Viewing who and what is
behind the Gray Collective and again using our "connect the dots"
strategy, we know that the same forces are behind the reptilians as
well as the NWO, and of course, all together, they have an Agenda.

Also in Comments at the bottom of Full Disclosure Part II, I posted
News Clips of a Pandemic Emergency in the Ukraine on November 8, 2009
and again on November 9 as well as 2 more on November 17, 2009. Our
research continued into Full Disclosure Part III, which is from where
you are reading this now. Unfortunately, as I suspected, the scenario
in the Ukraine, which was not even touched in the controlled mainstream
media has spread. We have an UPDATE!

Dr. Bill Deagle 24th November 2009 (Speaker #3 in Full Disclosure I - Close Encounters.
This update followed Project Camelot special Ukraine report from a
doctor in a Kiev hospital. Bill Deagle focuses most of this new
interview on the H1N1 situation and the serious implications of the
D225G genetic change recently reported by the WHO and identified in
Ukraine, Norway, Canada, USA and several other countries. 5 Part
Interview. (video)

11.20.09 Bill Ryan from Project Camelot also interviewed Gabriele
Stähler, a German naturalpath about Vitamin D3. This video contains the
basics you need to know about how Vitamin D3 works in the body, how
much to take when you want to supplement it for better health, and why
it's important to know about as it is a natural antibiotic made in our
bodies to protect us against viruses and bacteria. (video)

GO TO:
http://royfrancisstewart.ning.com/forum ... e-part-iii


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tl;dr

Meanwhile, at the Secret Jew/Alien underwater base...

Dev if u r still readin this, requestin up in here that the next ziltoid album has a song about the aliens plan to mildly inconvenience mankind by tainting the flu vaccine so that people get sore arms, and cheerleaders can only walk backwards.

if u do this it would be totally web 2.0, and you can even say on the back of the CD that forums poster "The Oid" says that "this CD is totally web 2.0" if that wiil help the cause any.

ok thanks

sign on if u agree with dis

Oh... my... god...

Now where did I put that tinfoil-hat?

I had it a few months ago and it laid me out for about a week - lost three pounds in five days - really not much fun at all.

If it's that again or an achy arm from the jab then there isn't much competition.

{offers arm for the needle}

I had it a few months ago and it laid me out for about a week - lost three pounds in five days - really not much fun at all.

If it's that again or an achy arm from the jab then there isn't much competition.

{offers arm for the needle}

Um, suffering through the H1N1 flu develops a much stronger immunity than any vaccine. You know that, right?

I had it a few months ago and it laid me out for about a week - lost three pounds in five days - really not much fun at all.

If it's that again or an achy arm from the jab then there isn't much competition.

{offers arm for the needle}

Um, suffering through the H1N1 flu develops a much stronger immunity than any vaccine. You know that, right?

Woo hoo, accidental WIN !

I had it a few months ago and it laid me out for about a week - lost three pounds in five days - really not much fun at all.

If it's that again or an achy arm from the jab then there isn't much competition.

{offers arm for the needle}

Um, suffering through the H1N1 flu develops a much stronger immunity than any vaccine. You know that, right?

Where'd you get that from?
Not saying it isn't true, as I honestly wouldn't know either way, but I've never heard that before and I'm curious.

Um, suffering through the H1N1 flu develops a much stronger immunity than any vaccine. You know that, right?

Where'd you get that from?
Not saying it isn't true, as I honestly wouldn't know either way, but I've never heard that before and I'm curious.

Not sure where to go for an good authoritative source for this (there's some stuff here), but that's the case for pretty much all diseases for which there is a vaccine.

The vaccines are based on the idea that being exposed to a weakened form of the virus trains your immunity system to fight it. So, if you instead manage to beat the full version of the virus, your immunity system is already battle-tested and ready to take it on any time