I'm not sure what Freemasonic rites you have in Canada actually... I know over here the higher degrees are most likely to be York Rite though, and Scottish Rite in the US. I don't know how high a degree these masons are or whether they can achieve higher degrees than the third depending on their rite. Could you find out? I'd be very interested to know. It seems to me that the further up the degrees you go the more of an arsehole you have to be to get there though (lol,) and Freemasonry's as compartmentalised as any other hierarchical organisation from my own summation. I would never say that all freemasons are bad people, the same as I wouldn't say everyone in government, social services or whatever are bad people.
The way I look at the NWO is this: most of it isn't secret; though the methodology of the banking elite is to attempt to be secretive about upcoming projects, most of the agenda for world government is in the public realm and already in place (or close to,) whether it be the gobal governance infrastructure of the UN/WTO/World Bank/IMF/NATO etc, Codex Alimentarius, Agenda 21, the SPP, the Lisbon Treaty, the different UN biodiversity documentations, John Holdren's book Ecoscience, Bertrand Russel's book The Impact Of Science on Society etc etc etc... You don't really have to look far to know what's going on there, and yes I think we're in agreement when it comes to false flag attacks - 9/11 really was pretty badly botched on the whole, considering how easy it really is to see through the thin veil of supposed Arab terrorism to the CIA handlers from the 70's like Zbigniew Brzezinski or Robert Gates, the money-grabbers like Larry Silverstein or the arch-fiends like Dick Cheney, Karl Rove or Paul Wolfowitz. These people still aren't exactly the top brass in the pyramid though - they're not bloody David Rockefeller or Meyer Rothchild anyway that's for sure. However it was still successful, was it not, considering the goal was to create an excuse to increase military projection in the middle east to create compliant governments? (Amongst all the other reasons obv.)
Also personally I tend to steer clear of saying "I believe so and so," imo the person isn't as important as the information being correct and manifestly provable. I know Icke deals with some of the more "kooky" things that going down these particular rabbit holes can lead to but you could find out the stuff Alex Jones talks about (and the points where him and David meet in the middle) without even having to go to them to find it out in the first place - it's being admitted all the time and you can see the agenda unfolding daily before your eyes.
I tend to separate this kind of occult stuff from the manifestly provable things that I mentioned just now personally - lizard men from Sirius-B and Alpha Draconis come under the same intellectual heading as UFO stuff and the sort of Zecharia Szitchin Annunaki stuff to me - it's interesting but at the same time it's not manifestly provable so i keep it in the "skeptic's box," shall we say, until further information presents itself. I still enjoy finding out about it, especially the Annunaki/Sumerian/Pre-Diluvian stuff but I think we agree there. However I'd like to mention that there's a lot more info out there about Boho Grove than just one grainy video man, including further footage from Grove employees, and publications from there which have pictures of different variations on the Cremation of Care from the past 100 years or so, not to mention the Strategic Defense Initiative (Star Wars Project) being cooked up there and, iirc, the Manhattan Project being formulated there also.
You have a point though - perhaps these secret societies are less relevant today considering how far things have come already? But at the same time knowing how seriously these elite types take occultism - whether it's Tony and Cherie Blair or Hitler and his coterie - and earth-worshipping pseudo-religion and how much it dictates their actions, I'm not so ready to discount it.
Don't believe your lying eyes!
The way I look at the NWO is this: most of it isn't secret; though the methodology of the banking elite is to attempt to be secretive about upcoming projects, most of the agenda for world government is in the public realm and already in place (or close to,) whether it be the gobal governance infrastructure of the UN/WTO/World Bank/IMF/NATO etc, Codex Alimentarius, Agenda 21, the SPP, the Lisbon Treaty, the different UN biodiversity documentations, John Holdren's book Ecoscience, Bertrand Russel's book The Impact Of Science on Society etc etc etc... You don't really have to look far to know what's going on there, and yes I think we're in agreement when it comes to false flag attacks - 9/11 really was pretty badly botched on the whole, considering how easy it really is to see through the thin veil of supposed Arab terrorism to the CIA handlers from the 70's like Zbigniew Brzezinski or Robert Gates, the money-grabbers like Larry Silverstein or the arch-fiends like Dick Cheney, Karl Rove or Paul Wolfowitz. These people still aren't exactly the top brass in the pyramid though - they're not bloody David Rockefeller or Meyer Rothchild anyway that's for sure. However it was still successful, was it not, considering the goal was to create an excuse to increase military projection in the middle east to create compliant governments? (Amongst all the other reasons obv.)
Also personally I tend to steer clear of saying "I believe so and so," imo the person isn't as important as the information being correct and manifestly provable. I know Icke deals with some of the more "kooky" things that going down these particular rabbit holes can lead to but you could find out the stuff Alex Jones talks about (and the points where him and David meet in the middle) without even having to go to them to find it out in the first place - it's being admitted all the time and you can see the agenda unfolding daily before your eyes.
I tend to separate this kind of occult stuff from the manifestly provable things that I mentioned just now personally - lizard men from Sirius-B and Alpha Draconis come under the same intellectual heading as UFO stuff and the sort of Zecharia Szitchin Annunaki stuff to me - it's interesting but at the same time it's not manifestly provable so i keep it in the "skeptic's box," shall we say, until further information presents itself. I still enjoy finding out about it, especially the Annunaki/Sumerian/Pre-Diluvian stuff but I think we agree there. However I'd like to mention that there's a lot more info out there about Boho Grove than just one grainy video man, including further footage from Grove employees, and publications from there which have pictures of different variations on the Cremation of Care from the past 100 years or so, not to mention the Strategic Defense Initiative (Star Wars Project) being cooked up there and, iirc, the Manhattan Project being formulated there also.
You have a point though - perhaps these secret societies are less relevant today considering how far things have come already? But at the same time knowing how seriously these elite types take occultism - whether it's Tony and Cherie Blair or Hitler and his coterie - and earth-worshipping pseudo-religion and how much it dictates their actions, I'm not so ready to discount it.
Don't believe your lying eyes!
